tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.comments2019-02-10T04:25:40.096-06:00Neither to Rule or be Ruled: Adventures in Intentional LivingStormhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-3720165214224535712010-11-26T21:01:04.126-06:002010-11-26T21:01:04.126-06:00Anon, amongst the problems with that argument ther...Anon, amongst the problems with that argument there is an is/ought fallacy (well reversed..) That governments made immoral decisions in no way necessitates that civilizations are dependent upon those immoral decisions. <br /><br />That this was the case in no way means that this is the only way to have civilization.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-68805327609799255342010-11-25T14:03:12.329-06:002010-11-25T14:03:12.329-06:00Industial civilization is anything but voluntary t...Industial civilization is anything but voluntary to many.Just to aquire this fine piece of land(NA)we had to do some serious "persuasion".Virtualy all industrial activities have people affected that protest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-67117171735233680872010-11-23T14:12:31.529-06:002010-11-23T14:12:31.529-06:00Walter, thanks for the comment. Unfortunately voti...Walter, thanks for the comment. Unfortunately voting is not complaining, it is cheering and encouragement. It says that you approve of the ownership of others, and that this should continue. <br /><br />That is not to say you cannot complain and vote, but it is like complaining about eating too much at Thanksgiving, you did it to yourself.. Though with voting you are doing it to others also, but you get the idea.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-71476944850709709942010-11-23T14:10:56.467-06:002010-11-23T14:10:56.467-06:00Anon, we require order not laws. As long as there ...Anon, we require order not laws. As long as there is order we can certainly have civilization, and order comes about via function and respect for others. Laws are often at odds with order, or are arbitrary, and certainly they limit growth, civility, and civilization. The incarceration rate in the US, which is higher than any nation in history (in fact the incarceration rate for non-crimes alone is higher than any nation in history for all of their reasons for incarceration!) takes away from civilization, reduces advancement, and prohibits learning in a number of areas.<br /><br />The old "laws" of the common law tradition in England (and other places" were not laws dictated by any ruler, but rather judgements from courts run by the people. They were never abolute, but were all merely case studies such that a very similar case may in fact get a different ruling if but one important aspect of the case were different. In this way order was discovered, not decreed, and there was (and is) no need for laws as we know them today. <br /><br />As for the socialist offshoot of anarchy you refer to as "traditional" anarchy (got to give them credit for usurping that role in people's minds..) I contend that it is not anarchy at all as it neglects respect for persons and demands a rigid essentially totalitarian state. There is no other way to enforce that redistribution of the wealth, and of course without a state, the state cannot own the means of production. (ala socialism)<br /><br />I had not come across that difference in "green anarchy," but thanks for the reference. <br /><br />It seems to me from my reading and of course from the logical implementation of basic respect for persons, that the long tradition of what is sometimes called "individualist anarchy" is the only right and just path, for it allows for all of the other suggested forms of association, with the one caveat that all must be voluntary without the coercion which is the trademark of the state.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-4104679227935309552010-11-23T11:46:00.101-06:002010-11-23T11:46:00.101-06:00I agree with you Storm,but find it interesting tha...I agree with you Storm,but find it interesting that you are using industrial civilization to facilitate your home construction as Industrial Civilization requires a hierarchical organization to function.That means leaders and laws to hold it all together.Perhaps you are familier with Green Anarchy.It is an offshoot of traditional anarchy in that it recognizes that hierarchy is inherent in civilization.Rather than redistribute the means of industrial production.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-73564020766030487482010-11-22T14:24:48.553-06:002010-11-22T14:24:48.553-06:00When someone chooses not to vote they give me thei...When someone chooses not to vote they give me their vote to cast and cast it I will. I always vote because I like to complain. If you want to complain, vote.<br /><br />Vote.<br />Vote often.<br />Vote repeatedly.Walter Jeffrieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720110642967540506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-66807835724714939052010-11-10T10:54:06.534-06:002010-11-10T10:54:06.534-06:00great share, great article, very usefull for me......great share, great article, very usefull for me...thank <br /><br />youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-44431953332463658512010-11-04T18:06:03.323-06:002010-11-04T18:06:03.323-06:00Anon,
Not true of course.
First off a right to...Anon, <br /><br />Not true of course. <br /><br />First off a right to free speech in no way depends upon voting, nor should it. Rights are inherent in moral agents, not something to be granted by any "authority." <br /><br />Secondly, it is voter who is a hypocrite for complaining, not the non-voter. The non-voter did not support the harm to others, or herself, but the voter actively approved of the process and the system by participating. To complain then about the outcome is to simply become a hypocrite. <br /><br />As for removing people from office, you are missing the forest for the trees. The problem is not a particular person in office, they are all evil after all, but rather the existence of any post, of any office which necessitates or assumes a right to control other people. <br /><br />You can respect other people as people or you can assume that you have a right to own or otherwise control the peaceful lives of others (voting), but you cannot do both. <br /><br />Compassion, respect, and integrity are all at odds with voting, with the presumption that you have a right to own other people.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-46579985457702237402010-11-02T20:58:34.979-06:002010-11-02T20:58:34.979-06:00To choose to not vote, is to deny yourself the rig...To choose to not vote, is to deny yourself the right to complain about loss of democratic rights. <br /><br />To refuse to vote is to refuse to take responsibility for not removing whomever you take issue with, from office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-80724796759283051142010-06-23T00:09:29.606-06:002010-06-23T00:09:29.606-06:00Thanks Wretha! I've really enjoyed reading you...Thanks Wretha! I've really enjoyed reading your experiences, and I've already adopted a few, though I am too lazy to go with the tumbler for humanure. :) I have gone with the bucket system, and a pile which I will alternate ever year or so.. <br /><br />On Wendy's site, you might be surprised.. she is an individualist feminist which means that she supports all individuals, including men.. :) She is not the NOW sort of rabid gender feminist who thinks that women can advance only through hurting men. She is also a great writer on other subjects as well, from liberty to privacy, to various aspects of history and philosophy.<br /><br />A better person we are unlikely to meet.. :)Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-30192611272814456892010-06-21T23:56:43.016-06:002010-06-21T23:56:43.016-06:00I like the new look!
Oh, and thanks for the link ...I like the new look!<br /><br />Oh, and thanks for the link to http://www.wendymcelroy.com<br />I just signed up, I'm not a feminist by any means, that doesn't mean we all can't learn from each other... :)WrethaOffGridhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04941116263529261885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-47098405243582295502010-02-05T18:58:19.738-06:002010-02-05T18:58:19.738-06:00yeah that is the last story as I recall. I enjoyed...yeah that is the last story as I recall. I enjoyed In Another Country, but the rest just don't pull me in the way that his novels have.. Still, I recall that I hated the first Tolstoy short story I read, and then I came to love both his short and long works.<br /><br />I'll let you know when I get to The Short Happy Life..Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-64328461883705668362010-02-04T13:28:55.168-06:002010-02-04T13:28:55.168-06:00Curious to hear your thoughts on "The Short H...Curious to hear your thoughts on "The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber". I think that's in Snows. . .NakiaPopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406561137170462267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-51422719504955512272010-01-27T14:15:21.877-06:002010-01-27T14:15:21.877-06:00No, I did not remember that! I had set aside ficti...No, I did not remember that! I had set aside fiction while in grad school, so Hemingway was not even really on my radar. Now, everytime I buy books I look for another Hemingway to read. In some ways he also reminds me of Edward Abbey, but more refined.. Maybe it is just the ability to describe life as it really is. <br /><br />Any suggestions on a good collection of shorts from him?Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-50384140583624946382010-01-27T11:53:08.909-06:002010-01-27T11:53:08.909-06:00You may not remember, but I am a big Hemmingway gu...You may not remember, but I am a big Hemmingway guy. I found your description of him to be very apt and moving. I really enjoyed For Whom the Bell Tolls and love his short stories.NakiaPopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406561137170462267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-20254519659785739062010-01-22T12:24:08.207-06:002010-01-22T12:24:08.207-06:00It's like a spreading virus of literariness!It's like a spreading virus of literariness!NakiaPopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406561137170462267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-57897979532486593682009-10-30T18:31:29.262-06:002009-10-30T18:31:29.262-06:00Thanks! Maybe not the journey I started, but it is...Thanks! Maybe not the journey I started, but it is the one I am on.<br /><br />McDermott's class pretty well cut the last tie to what I believe for me at least was the illusion of modern working life with any inherent meaning in it.<br /><br />I understand the fear involved in having your own business, obviously I went through it. The rewards are great, but admittedly the risks are real as well. It was not until I was able to leave the business for two months while I traveled in China, and I returned to plenty of work, before I felt any degree of security. <br /><br />Perhaps the most reassuring realization was the realization that security in a 9-5 job is entirely illusory itself. <br /><br />Still, if I could teach, without the office politics, without the nonsense, just teach, I would do it in a heartbeat. <br /><br />Speaking of which, did I tell you that I did a guest lecturer series at my undergrad university? Did a couple of sections of bio-ethics for six weeks and even got to do a little bit of Gert's stuff! Yeah I am still pushing his stuff, with some important modifications so that essentially there are 8 rules..<br /><br />I will put Shop Class on my goodreads.com wish list..Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-35266469328199169022009-10-29T09:17:55.639-06:002009-10-29T09:17:55.639-06:00Congrats! I know this didn't all start in McD...Congrats! I know this didn't all start in McDermott's existentialism class, but IIRC that sort of moved you further in this direction.<br /><br />I've often thought about having my own business for the reasons you talk about, but worry about supporting my family with the sort of business I'd be interested in (bookstore keeps popping up). Being a professor isn't being self-employed, but it's a nice blend of stability and flexibility.<br /><br />In semi-related news, have you read <i>Shop Class as Soulcraft</i>. I think you'd like it.NakiaPopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406561137170462267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-56547852360006711292009-10-08T09:48:51.763-06:002009-10-08T09:48:51.763-06:00First and foremost "anonymous" would be ...First and foremost "anonymous" would be simple respect, with all that implies. Though not necessary in all relationships, it is a part of all personal (as opposed to business) relationships there is honest concern for the other.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-76889700529068282932009-10-07T08:09:39.049-06:002009-10-07T08:09:39.049-06:00And just what are those most basic elements in any...And just what are those most basic elements in any relationship that you are referring to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-50912457522295029542009-08-26T16:31:38.864-06:002009-08-26T16:31:38.864-06:00Thanks.. We'll see how the build out goes..Thanks.. We'll see how the build out goes..Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-30923011640114759882009-08-26T11:20:10.721-06:002009-08-26T11:20:10.721-06:00You're always welcome!You're always welcome!NakiaPopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406561137170462267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-33033255847826488502009-08-25T21:39:41.463-06:002009-08-25T21:39:41.463-06:00If I do not have the house weather tight, then I m...If I do not have the house weather tight, then I may well spend the winter traveling for work. If we can swing enough paying gigs in your area to cover living expenses and gas, I can easily be convinced to make it out there.. I might even be able to get some work from some relatives who live out that way.. <br /><br />On the state of the current university student.. well I have some small familiarity with that given the guest lecturing and auditing I have done over the last year... out of all of the students, only one stands out (a philosophy major..) who shows the passion that I recall having myself in my undergrad days..Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-41885297665533346972009-08-25T01:57:55.046-06:002009-08-25T01:57:55.046-06:00Well, if your offering -- we've got a guest ro...Well, if your offering -- we've got a guest room, a bunch of bare walls, and wireless. We can stay up late, debate health care, and lament the state of the current university student ;)NakiaPopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406561137170462267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6761888.post-84074370818850822792009-07-15T16:44:52.610-06:002009-07-15T16:44:52.610-06:00Honestly I cannot say. I have only recently begun ...Honestly I cannot say. I have only recently begun reading Abbey myself and have not yet read Desert Solitaire. Abbey's Road did make me fall in love with his writing style and subject matter...<br /><br />The more I read of Abbey the more I like him. Between reading his work and following The Field Lab blog, I am almost tempted to build in the desert instead of other locations I have been considering.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15154817401507525700noreply@blogger.com